is Brian really the king?

Posted April 7th, 2008 by lundberry

NOCTURNAL

After listening to episode 22 I am almost wondering if this isn't a set up for us to find out that Brian is really the king. Think about it he has the exact same dreams where he wakes up with the cock of steel going. One of the things that also indicates that for me is that he is able to take out the Saviour which tells me that he is able to do more than Rex ever could. I think that it is too convenient for Rex to be the king. Where as we have been given information that really does lean towards Brian being the king.

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Okay, we can put this one to bed...

On June 25th, 2008 SynapticJam says:

Bryan is a King. Rex is a King... It's official. Next?

SynapticJam on Toast - hhhmmm... tastes like chicken (aka PUVJK) #2 in crack hits (ain't I special)

Was it...

On June 25th, 2008 DragonRiderOfPe... says:

not mentioned that Brian's sample of damaged or different from the others?

The Irishman from Ohio

What's next?

On June 25th, 2008 wallerdad says:

These gathering hosts of loyal junkies, under the command of the great SCOTT

Lots of options...

On June 25th, 2008 SynapticJam says:

I could have sworn that Scott said Mommy would have to do it with a King to make another Mommy... Maybe a forum pool as to who she gets it on with... Between the two, I'm sure it would be Rex... but wouldn't it make a cool scene to have Bryan strapped down to the "Bed" while Mommy undulated over to him with that come hither look in her eye and shooting out those "Take Me Now King" pheremonal vibes....

SynapticJam on Toast - hhhmmm... tastes like chicken (aka PUVJK) #2 in crack hits (ain't I special)

You've done it again Jam

On June 25th, 2008 SlackerQueen says:

My tummy is very unhappy now.

http://www.chasingthebard.com/

you are a sick,sick man spam

On June 25th, 2008 mumo00 says:

you are a sick,sick man spam

I guess it's my turn to say it

On June 25th, 2008 wallerdad says:

I just threw up a little bit in my mouth, thanks Jam

These gathering hosts of loyal junkies, under the command of the great SCOTT

I threw up a lot...

On June 25th, 2008 DragonRiderOfPe... says:

The Irishman from Ohio

Hey....

On June 26th, 2008 SynapticJam says:

I'm just doing my part... Don't hate me cause I'm beautiful... uh... I mean... sick in the head...

SynapticJam on Toast - hhhmmm... tastes like chicken (aka PUVJK) #2 in crack hits (ain't I special)

looks like bry bry is gonna take over savior's role

On June 25th, 2008 treed says:

-but i wonder if he is going to take the battle to them?? and exterminate the queen
http://www.pgholyfield.com/maah/
#1 in crack hits, for now anyway

True...

On June 23rd, 2008 DragonRiderOfPe... says:

...but if a group of people believe enough, want enough, Need enough, Consensual Reality can be bend to power of group's Faith. If only for a little time. They could have wished for a "King" and their collective wills help increases the chance of it happening. throw in the constant fears of the Savior to reinforce the belief and wallah. Stuff happens.

The Irishman from Ohio

Interesting...

On June 25th, 2008 SynapticJam says:

It might be a bit out of Scott's Hard Science realm though...

SynapticJam on Toast - hhhmmm... tastes like chicken (aka PUVJK) #2 in crack hits (ain't I special)

people are getting to far afield with the "KING"

On June 21st, 2008 treed says:

-the prophecy is a fake, the king is not "real"
what is real is the nocturnals BELIEVING they have a king and follow him blindly
bry bry is the end of mommy and the nocturnals will need to find a new way of life, those that survive,anyway, the end times that are a comin'
http://www.pgholyfield.com/maah/

True. To an extent

On June 23rd, 2008 SynapticJam says:

The prophecy is indeed fake. It just happened to coincide with a genetic shift/mutation in the Nocturnals. The "kings" like rex and bryan are indeed special. As first born indicated when he had trouble resisting the compulsion to obey Rex. What it really means in unknown as of this time. We just have to wait.

SynapticJam on Toast - hhhmmm... tastes like chicken (aka PUVJK) #2 in crack hits (ain't I special)

that's why i said, believing in the prophecy

On June 24th, 2008 treed says:

-can make it seem true and with the intervention of time and continued mutations, at least one offspring could appear to fullfill the false prophecy
http://www.pgholyfield.com/maah/

Getting it straight! AGAIN!

On June 19th, 2008 LeashedFreak says:

The King is a nocturnal that is capable of reproducing with mommy and other humans to make normal superstrong nocturnals/humans. I guess these is what is implied when they say that the King will come to free them and let them roam on th world above. Yes, Hillary has "safed" many of "possible Kings", one of these was Gastano, but he turned out to be sterile and unable to reproduce....so..so as far we only know of three possible kings...the First King and now Brian and Rex....and mommy is the one who makes the saviour and the king..the saviour is the good and the king is the evil....that is why saviour kills the nocturnal...this brings about the classic good vrs evil dilema...i think brian will become the saviour and rex the king...... LeashedFreak

Getting it straight!! Again!!!

On June 19th, 2008 DragonRiderOfPe... says:

So far there has been no mention of a Nocturnals reproducing with Mommy. There has been no mention of Marco"The Machete" being a King. It was stated he was a Ring for a human working top side/above ground for his Nocturnal brothers and sisters.

I am going to listen to all the episodes again this weekend to x4 this. If I am wrong I will reply back to say so.

Besides, the FDO can always change the story however he wants before it goes to print.

The Irishman from Ohio

Marco

On June 20th, 2008 Shadygirl says:

It is clear that Marco must have just been a ringer (able to pass as human) and not a king. Hillary has been sneaking the "kings" out and nobody else knew. The other nocturnals knew Marco and he was working with them. He clearly did not have that special smell.

A cowgirl is a woman with guts and a horse.

Polo

On June 20th, 2008 wallerdad says:

These gathering hosts of loyal junkies, under the command of the great SCOTT

LOL

On June 20th, 2008 Shadygirl says:

Good one.

A cowgirl is a woman with guts and a horse.

He has to...

On June 11th, 2008 DragonRiderOfPe... says:

...keep his sanity before he can do that. Hell, he really can do anything he wants. Just as long Pookie does not die until Nocturnals: Book II. Or Book 11. What ever works for the FDO*rtm*.

The Irishman from Ohio

Brian's got a big decision to make

On June 11th, 2008 teak says:

Brian is going to have to decide whether he wants to become the new Savior or take over leadership of the nocturnals.......hmmm

For Bry Bry?

On June 12th, 2008 SynapticJam says:

No choice... exterminate the nocturnals baby... Besides, if they kill mommy.... no more nocturnals...

SynapticJam on Toast - hhhmmm... tastes like chicken (aka PUVJK)

I can't imagine

On June 12th, 2008 Shadygirl says:

-Bry Bry choosing the side of the nocturnals. I agree, for him there really is not a choice.

A cowgirl is a woman with guts and a horse.

I'm back-

On May 28th, 2008 Talonr1701 says:

Brian is the new savior, Pookie is his partner. They kill Rex-Then 1st

Born & Tricky Dick, Brian and Pookie have a summit and all goes back to a semblance of normal....With the Nocturnals having a license to kill the mob.....

Do I win?

Keep up a good tradition- Smoke a pipe....

Seconded

On June 3rd, 2008 Butiobait says:

Yeah Talon1701, I'm thinking the same thing, Brian and Savior are brothers, after-all... So Savior (or his 'father') has to be one of Marie's kids. Savior ain't long for this world, Brian is the only one to defeat him, he's getting in good with the feltchers... er... fletchers. Yeah, Brian gets the big scary house on California St.

Here's a really disturbing thought...

On June 4th, 2008 SynapticJam says:

What if somehow Savior was a disaffected Nocturnal who ended up in Mommy's love nest, then had to take the groom walk, but actually escaped, and his "seed" begat the kings Rex and Bryan... ungh. I know it's full of holes, but imagine what that would mean. You think Aggie has some nightmares... imagine surviving the "mounting" and then actually getting away...

SynapticJam on Toast - hhhmmm... tastes like chicken (aka PUVJK)

Yuck

On June 4th, 2008 Shadygirl says:

Now thats a nightmare you would never forget.

A cowgirl is a woman with guts and a horse.

not even a copy of the home game

On May 28th, 2008 SynapticJam says:

Do you really think Pookie will bend that far? His moral compass would have to drastically skew to allow that. And what about Mommy? What happens with her? Pookie and Bryan won't let her continue her steady diet of homeless bums and people of ethnic descent...

SynapticJam on Toast - hhhmmm... tastes like chicken (aka PUVJK)

truth be known

On June 4th, 2008 Mc B says:

Mc B. Pookie has already had Mommy, they dated in high school he did her lovely!

I think that Brian is the

On May 27th, 2008 ClieQueen says:

I think that Brian is the king, Rex is an unkown, perhaps planted by an enemy to the Nocturnals that we dont' know about yet? Robin will stnad by Brian, maybe become the next "queen" but in a completely different way then Marie? The new queen to the new king?

Nah.., Brian is an above

On May 28th, 2008 DragonRiderOfPe... says:

Nah.., Brian is an above average bad ass undoctrinated Nocturnal. I was hoping that Chief Amy Zoe's two girls' father was the 1st Savior. I say this because i was hoping Chief Zoe was the 1st Savior ringer. Then Brian becoming the The 2nd Savior with Pookie becoming HIS ringer.

Irishman from Ohio

Who says every savior has a ringer?

On May 28th, 2008 SynapticJam says:

The chief is just a norm trying to protect the public... And Bryan is a "King"... there can be more than one, not really official, but we got it from the FDO himself after we plied him with alcohol in H-Town... I'm just curious if Savior was a ringer or a king... probably a king, as they're the real bad-asses... can't wait to see Bryan all decked out in Savior weaponry..

SynapticJam on Toast - hhhmmm... tastes like chicken (aka PUVJK)

A king

On May 29th, 2008 Shadygirl says:

I think Savior is also a king. I suspect that Bryan is going to replace Savior, and I think that Rex will meet his end either at Bryan's hands or maybe even Sly's. Especially if Sly thinks it will get him control of the Nocturnals.

A cowgirl is a woman with guts and a horse.

Close...

On May 28th, 2008 SynapticJam says:

They're both kings... It's a genetic marker. a new 'evolution' in the species... Marie started popping them out awhile back. Marie is a freak of nature... Can't wait for the ol' father son talk though!

SynapticJam on Toast - hhhmmm... tastes like chicken (aka PUVJK)

The interesting thing here

On May 31st, 2008 JP says:

You're making what could be an important point depending on how the story continues past this book. It's so obvious that often slips past my attention --the genetic link with this entire "family" runs through the mother, not through a common father. Marie is the key. If she's a freak of nature, rather than the product of some other mixed breeding between a more human Nocturnal (e.g. Rex or Brian) and a fully-human female that produces a female child with the zed chromosome...the story has to start and end with Marie. At least the story as we know it. If something happened to her though, it would be interesting to see what follows with the surviving hive. Thoughts?

"Everything takes longer than it does." --Me

the nocturnals as they are would cease to exist

On May 31st, 2008 treed says:

-they might continue to live, but their way of life will change, no more baby noct's, they may reproduce, but without any outside, new dna, their offspring will begin to degenerate fast, and even so, their dna becomes more diluted
http://www.pgholyfield.com/maah/

Worse yet

On June 4th, 2008 JP says:

if this is the way it plays out, they'd start to mutate and produce deformities in their offspring. Ugly deformities like when cousins from West Virginia get married--dim-witted kids, and some with snake heads and fur...wait a minute...!

- Prospice tibi--ut Gallia, to quoque in tres partes dividaris.

Don't forget...

On June 1st, 2008 DragonRiderOfPe... says:

...the autopsy of Mark Gastono. the machete Nocturnal. Some of them might not be able to reproduce even if they wanted to. I hope not of the Nocturnal think of in-vitro procedures.

The Irishman from Ohio

Gastono had to be a HUMAN nocturnal

On June 1st, 2008 treed says:

-and can they even reproduce??
http://www.pgholyfield.com/maah/

Of course...

On June 2nd, 2008 Shadygirl says:

even if we assume that Gastono was a human nocturnal, and not just a nocturnal that looked human enough to pass, there still has to be a difference between him and the kings. The nocturnals knew him and did not have any strong reaction to him.

A cowgirl is a woman with guts and a horse.

Across the board

On June 2nd, 2008 Shadygirl says:

Would it be that all of them can't reproduce, or that maybe some can and others can't. All of the other mutations vary. It may be that most couldn't reproduce, but maybe a few could.

A cowgirl is a woman with guts and a horse.

Maybe that's the thing about the "kings"...

On June 2nd, 2008 SynapticJam says:

Maybe they can reproduce, and that's why first born wants to be rid of them. Of course, what would the progeny be? And if they've been doing this for awhile, wouldn't there already be a bunch of "princes" running around?

SynapticJam on Toast - hhhmmm... tastes like chicken (aka PUVJK)

Good Point

On June 2nd, 2008 Shadygirl says:

Even if it is just the kings that could reproduce, then there would probably be a bunch of offspring already. You would think that this would lead to discovery.

A cowgirl is a woman with guts and a horse.

Interesting Points All....

On June 2nd, 2008 SynapticJam says:

There are a lot of unanswered questions here. The hives complete and total reliance on Marie appears to be inviolate. I'm going to have to listen to 1st born's thoughts on the existence of the "kings" again. They were created as a legend to give the nocturnals hope. But then where did they start coming from... and with genetic markers to lead/rule. Rather interesting, really. Can't wait to see how it all pans out...

SynapticJam on Toast - hhhmmm... tastes like chicken (aka PUVJK)

could it be

On June 2nd, 2008 treed says:

-the HUMAN nocturnals with Savior like abilities "Smell" different. hence the "King" fullfillment issue. there was after all that "Earlier" KING fiasco that hillary wasn't around yet to witness. AH, life in the hive. happy happy joy joy.
anyways, ya'll know my position on the KING/SAVIOR issue.
http://www.pgholyfield.com/maah/

who is brian????

On May 22nd, 2008 Pjotr NL says:

just kidding

Convoco vel intereo, [1st Dutch junkie] All that matters is getting my fix.

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